.......EMULATE the look, feel, smell, taste, texture etc., of real meat products and dairy products, say for example, soy milk for Dairy Milk, soy cheese for REAL cheese, why would you want to eat something that remotely resembles meat or other animal products, I don't get it, what I'm getting at, why in the world would you want to eat, say, meatless meatballs with spaghetti if you're a vegan/vegatarian??? What's up with that?? Like Textured Vegetable Protein, which resembles ground beef, and Boca and MorningStar Farms put out "faux meat" products, but why would you want to eat something that resembles (remotely even) what you're trying your best to stay away from?? AND I DON'T NEED ANY NASTY ANSWERS, I'M JUST ASKING A VERY PROVOCATIVE QUESTION, SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE NASTY, DON'T EVEN BOTHER ANSWERING, OK???
BTW, thanks for your candid answers
Christopher|||Come on Christopher, you should know this. People aren't born vegans/vegetarians, usually. people grow up eating meat, have great times, bad times and food is sometimes involved with these times. people at some point in their life make a conscious choice to decide to make a lifestyle change. You really ought to know better Christopher. Food evokes memories, and if you can come close with a boca burger, and it reminds you of that time you were at the bar, just got out of the kitchen after getting your sh it pushed in all night doing 600 covers, and you and the crew went out, had a few too many brews, and just had a great time. if that boca burger can invoke that memory, which food often does, then why would you not want that meatless burger? Inside you know the answer to your question, Christopher. I know you do.|||Well even though I'm not a vegetarian, I think its pretty hard to give up the good stuff once they make the transit to veggie-dom.|||to each his own, I personally dont care who eats what and what it looks like,|||Most people who have been vegetarians for a long time that I know don't eat those things.
They are mostly for people just starting who still remember meat and for people who are vegetarians for health NOT moral reasons.
Also they are an easy way to get replacements without looking hard.
For milk-Solymilk
For Protien rather than peanuts and tofu----meat replacements.
And then some people just know that eating meat is wrong but still like the 'taste' (since they eat the fake stuff) of meat.
Add all those people together and there is a big market.
Vegetarians vary from person to person, some hate the stuff and some love it....|||this sort of food is for people who become veggies after eating a lot of meat produce - ie I have been told by my doc to cut out meat,but loved it so use soya mince etc. thanks for asking though|||because we dont exactly like the idea of animals dieing to feed us. we like meatless meatballs because theyre tasty and offer protein w/o the cruelty of killing animals.|||It's very tough for beginner vegetarians to switch to completely no-meat-and-nothing-that- resembles-meat. Especially when you have eaten meat for years, it becomes the staple of our daily meals. Most eat it to wean themselves off of meat, as smokers used patches to stop smoking. Others eat them because they are better alternatives to eating meat/dairy.|||"why would you want to eat something that resembles (remotely even) what you're trying your best to stay away from??"
Why not? Taste is only taste. It is the killing that matters, not the taste of the product.
First off, many people do not want to eat this, so these "faux meat" products are for only a segment of the vegit. population. Don't assume everyone likes them.
I guess the simple answer is that if many vegetarians are like myself, they really like meat from a diet/taste point of view; though do not want to engage in the cruelty and inhumane treatment of animals. No matter what a product tries to taste like, I can enjoy it knowing that I am not contributing to this industry.
It is rather simple really.
I am not a vegan so I still enjoy ice cream...though if I can eat a healthier frozen yogurt that tastes like ice cream, is that somehow inconsistent? I know what I am eating is potentially healthier. I love the taste of cow, I just do not love it enough to want to kill one just to please my taste buds. If I can get a similar taste, great....and nothing is hurt in the process.
BTW, if you do not want nasty answers, you might want to rephrase questions as to not be so attacking...you can cool it on the multiple question marks for example.|||dude
Fake chicken tastes like soy
fake ribs tastes like soy
they are all soy to me
SOY TO THE WORLD !!!!!!!!|||I dont eat the fake meats or anything that resembles meat. I find them off putting. I eat whole, organic foods, in their natural state. My daughter likes the veggie burgers when she attends a BBQ at a friends house, but beyond that, we prefer whole foods. I think its because people acquire a taste for meat, and the meat substitutes make it easier to maintain a vegetarian diet. When my young daughter first became a vegetarian, she wanted to try one of the fake hot dogs, but when she looked at it in the bun, she said it looked and smelled too much like the real thing, and she couldnt eat it. Different preferences, I guess.|||As others have said - many vegetarians/vegans chose to no longer eat animals because killing animals to eat their flesh is just not an option anymore. I have never once said that chicken or fish or hamburger doesn't taste good - I loved the taste of meat but my ethics could no longer justify my desire to eat an animal that had to give their life to end up on my plate.
But then faux meats came along and now I can enjoy a similar taste - and it is not a dead animal!|||I could have sworn that this question was asked last week?
Ohh well.
Meat substitutes are not what every vegetarian or vegan uses. It may be used by some for transitioning from a diet that contained animal based protein and the person, for whatever reason, decides to go vegetarian. Perhaps some vegetarians or vegans may serve it at a dinner party for guest who normally eat meat but will not serve it for personal reasons.
It is kind of the same reason why I keep a well stocked refridgerator full of fruits and veggies, it is not only for myself but for my guests also as some of them do not eat animal proteins.
By the way, I am not vegetarian but I have enjoyed soy based products because they are healthy and they have come a long way from cardboard tasting putty. In my stew, chili, even scrambled eggs, I have used tofu in addition to the normal meat(s). Why? because it adds protein without the harmful fats. Just one of many reasons for myself at least.|||Christopher, I hate to break it to you, but this is FAR from a "PROVOCATIVE QUESTION". In fact, it's asked quite often. The answer is quite easy.
Some people like the way fake meats taste
Some people like what fake meats add to a meal
Some people use them to make the non-vegetarians they know more comfortable
Some people use them for the great protein they provide
There are probably others, but these are the ones that come to me off the top of my head.|||It pretty much comes down to this: they taste good. The taste of meat isn't repulsive to me: it's the thought of killing a living thing. I haven't been vegetarian forever, and I have eaten plenty of (tasty) meat. It would be much harder to stay to a strict diet without that stuff. Not to mention harder to get protien.|||This is making me hungry, is it dinner time yet? I have some veggie burgers in the freezer at home that I can wait to fry up. Yummy. Its the best of both worlds, protein and veggies at the same time.|||Christopher. It is a VERY provactive and cogent questions. I think there are many possibilities for answers, none of which could adequately answer it in this space/
I'm taking a particular approach. A "marketing approach". We come into this life and quickly acquire a verbal, mental, auditory, visual, tactile and taste, "vocabulary" of words, mental images, and sensory date of smell, taste, hearing, etc. Those become part and parcel of us. It is a common experience that is readily identifiable with anyone within the US, Lord knows all of these things are present in the advertising around us. We are born into an "ominivore" world!
In order to tie into this "familiarity" . . .it is impossible to change . . . identifying vegan/vegetarian products with familiar sensory experiences is a very natural thing.
Let's face it ... would "Boca Soy Flats" play well against "Boca Soy Bugers" . . .or as Boca became a name among it's target audience, you don't even need the word "soy" . . . "Boca Burgers".
Hemp Milk is not really milk. It's a liquid made from hemp to represent/replace "milk". Would you rather buy "Hemp Liquid" or "Hemp Milk"?
Even the assignation of "faux meat" doesn't erase the memory of "meat" . Many of these things are oxymorons ... "meatless meatballs" ... why don't we say "veggieless salads" ... it doesn't compute does it?
At least that is my opinion. I would say as a "provacateur" that I am quite fond of pressing this "precision of language" issue with only the most radical and strident vegans/vegitarians whose "you know what" doesn't stink. It's a lot of fun because it leads to the logical inference that we are in an ominivore world from our earliest experience..|||some people like me love the taste of meat, but do not like the fact that an animal is hurt and killed for it. if you want to understand better what i mean go to www.youtube.com and type "meet your meat" in the search box|||This question is asked a lot in this section. The short answer is, just because someone no longer eats meat, doesn't mean they don't still like something that tastes similar to meat. I've gotten away from the Boca burgers more and more now that I'm accustomed to veganism, but I relied on them a lot as a beginner. And the whole point is that they DON'T contain any animal product (well, as long as they're vegan), so there really is nothing to feel guilty about. I was at a graduation party this weekend and it was nice to have something that resembled what everyone else was eating.
I also just tried SO Delicious dairy free "ice cream" a few minutes ago for the first time and BOY WAS IT GOOD! I used to be ADDICTED to ice cream, and while this had a totally different texture, it was nice to be able to scoop it out, and even put it on a cone if I wanted to. I wasn't a vegan for 21 years of my life, so people get into routines! :)|||I figured this would be a pretty obvious answer =\
You know, vegans and vegetarians aren't the only ones who eat these foods. A lot of these products were first produced as no cholesterol, low fat alternatives for older people who were suffering from a life long dedication to eating the real stuff.
Most faux foods are used by transitioning vegetarians and vegans. It's not about resembling...it's about the convenience and association we grew up with. It isn't the idea that bothers me, its the cruelty, the additional unhealthy side effects and the unnecessary nature of it all that comes with eating meat.
Diet is the biggest determining factor in our survival. period. It's too bad so few people actually take it serious. That's because we take it for granted though and our survival is basically guaranteed in our societies now. If we lived in the wild what we ate and how we ate it would be priority..instead of entertainment and possession is now.
It's just an easy way to add protein and supplement a diet for those who choose to do it. Some never learn other ways to prepare food in a more traditional vegan sense. Some use these till they do..either way I don't see a problem with it. It's better then the alternative.|||I personally do not eat fake meats.
But, please consider how your question contains faulty logic on two points:
1. Your premise that those fake meats are created only for veg*ns.
2. Your premise that ALL veg*ns became one for animal rights / hatred of meat (many become one just for health reasons).
The fake meat industry panders to meat-eaters who want to eat healthier, or meat-eaters who are transitioning to veg*nism, or veg*ns who are used to the look %26amp; taste of meat from being raised on meat-heavy diets.
Soy milk was not created to emulate cow's milk. It is a by-product of tofu, which has been part of Far-east Asian cuisine for thousands of years. Traditional Far-east Asian cuisine does not include dairy foods so I doubt they were trying to emulate cow's milk. Also, there is nothing inherently "animal" about cheese, ice cream, etc. Soy "dairy" often taste good, especially for those raised on dairy-rich western diet, and does not include unhealthy fats, hormones, nor cruelty. For many veg*ns that's the point.|||Proteins: Body's protein needs can be provided by either animal or plant sources. Mixed protein diet obtained from various plant sources is better than animal protein and is recommended in diabetes, renal diseases and liver diseases. Mixed protein diet from different plant sources has been the pattern of diet in India for all vegetarians.
Carbohydrates: Carbohydrates are mainly found in plant foods; like cereals, grains, fresh and dry fruits, legumes, vegetable, greens, nuts etc. plant carbohydrates include' large amounts of starches, sugar and fibers which are important for gut functions. The body is better suited to a high carbohydrate diet than a low carbohydrate diet. In fact 55% of the food intake should be carbohydrate. All animal products do not contain carbohydrate which is essential for body.
Fat: Plant fats differ from animal fats in two different ways 1) they are cholesterol free 2) they generally contain more polyunsaturated fat and less saturated fats. Plant fats usually have higher polyunsaturated fat value than animal fats.
A diet which is low in cholesterol and which contains fat of a high PIS value is associated with a lower incident of coronary health disease.
Vitamins and Minerals: plant foods are rich in many vitamins and minerals.
Vitamin D: Vitamin D is obtained by exposure of skin to sun light and this is not a problem in India.
Calcium: The vegetarians can meet their needs for calcium from dairy products. Riboflavin (Vitamin B2) Dark green vegetables are good sources of Riboflavin as are legumes and whole grain cereal.
Iron: The problem of iron deficiency is relatively common but vitamin C significantly enhances absorption of iron hence it is advisable for vegetarians to include with each meal a food high in vitamin C which as lime, citrus fruits or juices.
Zinc: Zinc is found in large number of plant foods.
Fiber: Fiber is found only in vegetarian food like whole grain cereals, legumes, greens, fruits, vegetable etc.
Thus in vegetarian foods all requirement of nutrition for body growth and maintenance is fulfilled. One can have a complete and balanced diet provided we take enough food which is as close to nature as possible in maintaining sturdy and disease free body. It is equally helpful in curing many diseases.
ADVANTAGES OF VEGETARIAN DIET:
More %26amp; more evidence is surfacing that directly links a prolonged non- vegetarian diet to diseases as cancers, heart diseases, diabetes, asthma just to name a few.
1. LOGEVITY: Vegetarian can expect to live 4-10 years longer then the non-vegetarians.
" Source: Seventh day Adventists study
2. LESS HEART DISEASE: Because of low fat, saturated fat and cholesterol content of the vegetarian diet the risk of heart disease is lowered. High blood cholesterol levels are associated with increased risk of heart disease.
3. LESS CANCER: Up to 40% of all cancers are diet related. Cancer death rates have been associated with obesity and high fat / low fiber diet. Vitamin A %26amp; C are thought to be protective against colon cancer. Low fat diets protect against prostrate and breast cancer. Indoles, lignans, isoflavones, protease inhibitors which are present in plant foods and shown to be potent anti carcinogens.
4. LESS BOWEL DISEASE: Diverticular disease and appendicitis occur more frequently with low fiber intake as in meat diet.
5. LEES OBESITY %26amp; LESS INCIDENCE OF DIABETES: It is easier to plan a low fat diet for a vegetarian then for a meat eater. The fiber in plant food dilutes the energy %26amp; provides a satisfying meal without all the calories. Diabetes over the age of 40 seems to be related to obesity|||First, if you ask most non-vegetarians if soy meats taste or are the same texture as "real meat", they'll definetly say no. Over the years I've accidentally tasted meat/ dairy a few times, and believe me there's a huge difference. As a long-time vegan I eat soy meats and drink soy milk for many reasons;
-to add varity to my diet (just tofu, nuts, and beans can get boring after a while)
-to make sure I get enough protein , many of these items have more protein then beans, nuts, etc (Tofurky Italian Sausage has 29g of protein!)
Many of these items are fortified with vitamins so I don't have to remember to take as many suppliments
-many recipes I grew up eatting call for meat/ dairy, and these items replace them
-most of these foods are very quick and easy to make, as a mom of two young children convienience is really important
-my husbad is a meat eater, but will eat vegan food if it resembles "regular" food|||there is nothing wrong with eating real food. fake foods are a complete waste. if you are going to be a pu**y vegetarian, at least have some heart and do it right. it's like smoking light cigarettes, it's better for you, but you might as well go all or nothing.
when they finally make a fake beef product that actually tastes like beef, costs the same as beef, and cooks the same as beef, I'll buy it. Never before then.
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